I have posted several times menitoning the Monte Verde site in Chilean Patagonia, in the Lake District (see it on Google maps). It has been proclaimed and dated as the oldest site in Southern South America (and most of America) with an age of around 15,000 to 18,000 years. However, new research published in Science by Surovell et al., last week, suggests that it is far more recent, just 8.2 to 4.2 ky old!
The research paper is this one: Todd A. Surovell et al., A mid-Holocene age for Monte Verde challenges the timeline of human colonization of South America. Science 391, 1283-1288 (2026). DOI: 10.1126/science.adw9217.
The Very Old Age of Monte Verde (until now)
First reported by the team that had excavated the site since 1977, Tom D. Dillehay & Michael B. Collins, 1988, in an article published in Nature, the authors stated that "We report here two carbon-14 dates from charcoal taken from cultural features associated with the older materials of ∼33,000 yr BP. These findings provide additional evidence that people colonized the Americas much earlier than was previously thought."
Above is a view of the site (Source), it is set on the western side of the Andes in an area with forest coverage, by a stream. This area was heavily glaciated during the Ice Ages which carved out the lakes in the regin (Llanquihue, Todos los Santos, Ranco, etc.) it is also close to several active volcanoes (Osorno, Puyehue, Puntiagudo, Calbuco), and not far from the Pacific Ocean.
Dillehay et al, 2008 gave old, but not so old, dates to the site: "Remains of nine species of marine algae were recovered from hearths and other features at Monte Verde II, an upper occupational layer, and were directly dated between 14,220 and 13,980 calendar years before the present (∼12,310 and 12,290 carbon-14 years ago)." and again, Dillehay et al, 2015, an old date: "New evidence of stone artifacts, faunal remains, and burned areas suggests discrete horizons of ephemeral human activity in a sandur plain setting radiocarbon and luminescence dated between at least ~18,500 and 14,500 cal BP."
Over the course of 38 years, the site has been proclaimed as ancient, among the oldest in America, and it surely is, but now, controversy about its age has flared up again.
Much more recent: Clovis First Strikes Back
I must be fair and let you know that Todd Surovell, author of the paper suggesting a much later date for Monte Verde, does not believe in an early peopling of America. This position is clear, as we can see in Surovell et al., 2022: "[Our] findings support the hypothesis that the first human arrival to the New World occurred by at least 14,200 years ago in Beringia and by approximately 13,000 years ago in the temperate latitudes of North America. Strong evidence for human presence before those dates has yet to be identified in the archaeological record."
Surovell et al., 2018 also criticize early arrival, question the continuity of pre-Clovis and later Clovis paleoindians, and the Pacific coastal route vs. the inland one (favored by Surovell).
Having mentioned this, below I will comment Sturovell's new 2026 paper, and what it says about Monte Verde, its age and the arrival routes into America:
The researches looked at the sedimentary layout of the Monte Verde site, erosion, and volcanic ash, and concluded that it is half or even one-quarter of the formerly acknowledged age!
The authors state the following (I highlight the important part) "We argue that radiocarbon and luminescence dates from alluvial exposures, in combination with the identification of a tephra dated to 11,000 years B.P. stratigraphically underlying the archaeological component, suggest that Monte Verde cannot be older than the Middle Holocene (8200 to 4200 years B.P.). With colonization no longer anchored by Monte Verde, our revised chronology supports a more recent date of human arrival to South America."
Their analysis of sedimentary deposition of glacial sediments, volcanic ashes, and tree trunks that were later eroded is neat and seems coherent, and of course, the will to validate their preconceptions and the beliefs they support (like a late peopling of America).
Pushing their Clovis cause, the authors caution that "...any inferences made about the peopling of the Americas based on a Late Pleistocene date for this site should be reevaluated. Although a pre-Clovis human presence in the Americas is accepted by many archaeologists, a Holocene age for Monte Verde leaves open the possibility of later initial colonization. The acceptance of the pre-Clovis age of Monte Verde led some to reject migration through the ice-free corridor as a possible route of initial entry, and a coastal route along the Cordilleran ice margin has been suggested to be more likely. Although our findings do not preclude the possibility of earlier dates of initial entry to the Americas, they do support an initial interior migration into continental North America as a viable colonization hypothesis. As demonstrated here, the age of the MV-II component should not be used as a constraint or check on colonization models derived from other sources, including the genetics of modern or ancient populations. Our findings also underscore the critical need for independent study and verification of early sites."
I look forward to comments and rebuttals. This is indeed an interesting development!
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Hello Austin. Very interesting research… I have already done a first lecture to this paper (and to its supplementary data too), and I will tentatively try to comment on some points of this research…but please, take into account that I am far from being a geologist or a geomorphologist…
ReplyDelete1) About the scientific facts; Surovell et al. (2026) bases its claims in a rather different geologic and geomorphologic portrait of Monteverde II site…Due the implementation of complex and powerful software tools as well as field observations, they were apparently able to develop their “own” surface geology map of the site, that (as they explain) allowed them to assign all the previously reported C14 samples to the “correct” stratigraphic units…According to this, they strongly emphasize on the feasibility of redeposition mechanisms that affected the geological formation of the site, during Holocene times… and more precisely, they argue that the organic materials that Dillehay´s team found in close association with the lithic artifacts and other evidences in MV II layer (whose datings are nothing less than the basis on which the pre-Clovis age of Monteverde II rests…), actually were redeposited in it from an older layer during Holocene times... In other words, upon the view of this research, even being these materials of undeniable Late Pleistocene age, they were not yet present in MV II layer at these ages, but several Ka later… and thus, they are considered useless to support the antiquity claimed for the site. Simply put; they don´t discuss the datings (they could never do so…), but instead of this, they call into question the provenance of the samples… Another criticized aspect is the considerable spread between MV II radiocarbon ages obtained by Dillehay´s team (that is indeed a true fact, as they span from 13597 to 16317 years BP), attributed by Dillehay as the result of the dating of different materials by different laboratories… but interpreted by the authors as a too high spread for the brief occupation originally proposed for the site… that additionally, is highly suspected to be another proof of redeposition…
While the above mentioned points seem to be, in my opinion, debatable… it must be noted that there´s one argument in Surovell et al. (2026); the supposed 11 Ka tephra layer underlying MV II component… that, if properly confirmed in terms of identity, consistency, stratigraphic position and age, could be by itself enough to tear down MV II as a Late Pleistocene site...So, it would be very interesting what Dillehay and particularly, Mario Pino (geomorphologist of Monteverde´s team) has to argue at this respect…
2) About “possible” political aspects; First of all, it must be said that the proposal of new ideas and the rejection of those considered wrong or obsolete, constitutes the foundation upon which science progresses. They often can be very difficult to assimilate, but they must be viewed positively… as long as these processes are carried out leaving aside personal or corporate interests…
So, the question is;… apart from the scientific arguments the authors are putting forward in this paper…¿Could them have had another hidden motivations that could have conditioned their research?... As you do, I too believe that the answer is; may be… and I can mention at least two of them;
a) An attempt at vindication of orthodoxy standards… not necessarily coming from “Clovis First” as it was formerly conceived ... but most probably from “Clovis First plus a few Ka”, some sort of “updated” version of the former, which currently brings together all those researchers that have been establishing these standards so far… What if Dillehay once dared to break some rule of this organization…??
b) An attempt to gain notoriety by trying to tear down the bronze statue that Dillehay deservedly earned for all his work at Monteverde… Who knows?...unfair competition and jealously are frequently present in science…
…and also perhaps, some combination between (a) and (b).
Amazing post.
Best regards
Marcelo
Hello Marcelo, I appreciate your in-depth comment. I agree with you that science is built by debate, by tearing apart hypothesis and putting forward bold ideas and defending them. Conflicting data, new findings, new hypothesis are the substance on which science is built. Dogma, on the other hand (Creationsim, Religion, etc.) are just axioms that must be accepted.
DeleteSo, having clarified this point, I believe that Surovell may have a point, and that those who propose an older age for Monte Verde must now discuss Surovell's points and refute them. But, I am equally convinced that Surovell is motivated by his belief that Clovis first or, as you aptly say, "plus a few ky", is correct. Clovis first was concoted by Aleš Hrdlička over a century ago, to oppose Ameghino and his authocthonous theory (that was groundbreaking even though it was wrong). Supporting Clovis 1st, after the growing evidence of an earlier peopling of America is anachronic. Googling "who supports Clovis First Theory?" gave me a Google AI reply (BS, but telling!): "However, some researchers, such as Todd Surovell, have historically maintained skepticism regarding pre-Clovis sites. Reddit +2" So, I am not alone in my perceptions.
You could argue that my blog, and my ideas are equally one-sided, pushing the notion of an early peopling of America. A bigot who, without scientific proof promotes pseudo-science as if it was factual (I am referring to myself), but there is a difference. I am not an academic scholar, a paid researcher, a professional in the field of archaeology, with moral and ethical obligations regarding fairness and objectivity. This is my hobby, my blog, and I am free to suggest ideas in a playfiul manner. So, although I have been trained in the scientific method, as an engineer, and am objective, and always question established dogma. That is what makes science move forward.
Austin
Austin. You are right about Surovell… I too Googled about him, and obtained similar results… he appears to be one of the few remaining radicalized followers of Clovis First…So, I agree with you in that his main motivation for carrying out this research was most probably related with his personal “crusade”... However, it must be admitted that his work is nicely done and well documented, and that it could indeed be capable of tearing down Monteverde II age… although the authors´s final conclusions are absolutely anachronic…
ReplyDeleteYour “one sided” ideas at this respect are not wrong… I too believe that the history of the early peopling of America (and particularly of South America) is simply another one, quite different from what orthodoxy proposes… that it could also date back to unexpectedly ancient times…
Marcelo
Hi Marcelo, thanks for your comment. Indeed, Clovis First school resists the inevitable, an early peopling of America. The evidence regarding Monte Verde may be compelling, but there are many other pre-Clovis sites around the Continent. Nevertheless, I am surprised that people who are professionals in their field hold on to outdated ideas instead of moving on.
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