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Guide to Patagonia's Monsters & Mysterious beings

I have written a book on this intriguing subject which has just been published.
In this blog I will post excerpts and other interesting texts on this fascinating subject.

Austin Whittall


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Wednesday, December 3, 2025

Purple dyestuff from shelfish: Phoenician influence in America?


The Phoenicians discovered how to produce a pruple dye, that was highly appreciated in the Mediterranean region. They kept the secret of its production to themselves and sold the dye at high prices. Roman emperors dressed in purple, it was a symbol of wealth and extreme luxury. ipsum


They obtained it from the murex shellfish. A vast quantity of shells had to be processed to obtain small amounts of the purplue Tyrian dye (one-eighth of a drop of dye from each shell). 60,000 shells were required to produce one pound (453 g) of dye. In 1971, J. P. Robinson (Tyrian purple. Sea Frontiers 17: 77-82) noted that one pound of silk dyed with Tyrian purple would have cost $28,000 (this is equivalent to $224,000 in 2025 value).


Tyrian purple and murex shells
Murex shells, and a purple-dyed cloth. Source

The Phoenicians exploited murex to the brink of extinction, and had to expanded their production to the Northwestern Atlantic Ocean coast of Africa, where they harvested and processed shellfish for this purpose.


Phoenicians used Banded Dye Murex (Murex trunculus L.) and the Spiny Dye Mureх (Murex brandaris L.), they also used the Rock Shell (Thais haemastoma), known as buccinum at that time.


Shellfish dyes in the Americas


Robinson noted that the Phoenicians broke open the shell to access the punicin dye compound or removed the gland that produced it. instead, the Mixtec Indians of Oaxaca and Guerrero, in Mexico, milked the snails, which preserved them.


The natives in Nicoya, in Costa Rica,dyed cotton with shellfish at the time of the Spanish conquest.


An article (Purple Dyes from the Carlos Museum Pre-Columbian Textiles Collection: Direct Mass Spectrometry and HPLC Analyses. Jennifer Campos-Ayala, Reneé Stein, Rebecca R. Stone, and Ruth Ann Armitage, 2017) investigated the chemical makeup of different purple dyes used in coloring textiles in ancient Pre-Hispanic Peru.


The textiles span almost 1,500 years (between 100 and 1470 AD) and different colors were obtained by combining dyes and overdying the cloth repeatedly. The authores noted that "Purple derived from mollusks is well known in the Old World, and was also used in Central and South America, though originating from a different species of marine snails./p>

But some purples were obtained by combining red and blue: "Red yarns were overdyed with blue, or vice versa, to produce purple. Red dyes in ancient Peru were generally derived from the roots of the Relbunium plant or from cochineal (Dactylopius coccus) insects... cochineal dye can yield a purple color when copper is used as the mordant. Blue dye was obtained from the Indigofera, Isatis and Polygonum genera.".


They did detect one dye that was a true purple, obtained from shellfish because it had the typical chemical signature of such an origin: "Only a single sample showed traces of dibromoindigo, characteristic of shellfish-derived purple dye."


Another article looked into the specific species of shellfish that yield the purple dye dibromoindigo. These species are found around the world, and also in America: "Three of them have been reported to inhabit the Pacific coast of South America: Red-mouthed rock shell of the Eastern Pacific (Stramonita biserialis) from Mexico to Chile; Loco (Concholepas concholepas) from Callao, near Lima, Peru, to the Strait of Magellan in the southern end of Chile, including the Juan Fernández Archipelago, and Chocolate rock shell (Stramonita chocolata or Thais Chocolata) from Peru to Valparaiso, Chile".


The Chilean natives in northern Chile used them 9,500 years ago as food, tools, and containers. This article mentions "the use of this dye for textile production, Phipps indicated that dyed purple yarns appeared no later than 500 AD... In 1963, Saltzman and collaborators found shellfish purple dye in pre-Hispanic cloth, and Michel identified it on a fabric from Pachacamac, Peru, dated back to 900–1200 AD."


Phoenicians in America?


José Imbelloni published a long article titled "Mollusks and the ancient migrations of Mediterranean peoples to America according to the Manchester School" (Los moluscos y las antiguas migraciones de pueblos mediterráneos hacia América según la Escuela de Manchester - Estudio crítico. Revista del Museo de La Plata, 1926, Vol. 29) in which he critically reviews the evidence on Phoenicians in America as put forward by the "Manchester School" as espoused by Elliot Smith, W. J. Perry, J. Wilfrid Jackson, and W. H. R. Rivers.


Jackson proposed in 1916 that the Egyptians had reached America with their "heliolithic" culture, and introduced the use of shells as money-cowries and shell-trumpets, as well as purple dye. Imbelloni argues against the money and trumpet uses of shells, and although he accepts the ancient tradition of the use of shellfish dyes in Tehuantepec, Mexico, Costa Rica (Nicoya), and Santa Elena in Ecuador, and possibly among the Incas of Peru. But, he states that there is nothing extraordinary in these facts as there are several mollusks that produce purple dye, living in the Caribbean and the Pacific coast of America. He disagrees with Jackson's conclusion that "Mediterranean sea farers" introduced the secrets of purple dye into America.


You can read Jackson's book here: J. Wilfrid Jackson, 1917 Shells as Evidence of the Migrations of Early Culture, Manchester University Press.


Jackson mentions the use of Purpura patula in Central America adding that it is similar to the "Purpura hemastoma of the Mediterranean, one of the species used by the ancient Tyrian dyers, and which, as previously mentioned, is still used by the Minorcan fishermen to mark their linen." On the Pacific coast, the natives of Panama and Guatemala dyed "Poupre de Panama" using Purpura perszca.


For Jackson, "all the foregoing, in addition to other associated elements of culture, could have developed independently in the Old and in the New World is inconceivable." It was discovered once, in the Old World, and transmitted to America:


"It seems almos easier to believe that certain elements of an ancient European culture were at one time, and perhaps once only, actually transmitted by the traditional small band of ... Mediterranean sea-farers, than to explain how, under totally different conditions of race and climate, the identical ideas and customs should have arisen. The peculiar and distinctive character of the shellpurple industry is in itself sufficient justification for this conclusion, as it is altogether unlikely that different people could have adopted so remarkable a custom, along with identical methods of extracting the precious purple matter from shell-fish."


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Map showing the distribution of the Shell Purple Industry. Jackson

As the map shows, the use of this dye was also known in Japan. We know that (Source) the Japanese used the Rapana bezoar for dyeing, and that it was used by professional divers to stain their cotton diving suits because they believed that the snail purple had supernatural powers.

Closing Comments: No Phoenician influences in America


In my opinion, like many other discoveries (agriculture, domestication of animals, metallurgy, etc.) the use of purple dye obtained from shellfish was a convergent discovery, it took place in different locations among different people, just by chance.


So, no, the Phoenicians did not bring their know-how to America.



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Wednesday, October 15, 2025

Phoenician or Egyptian glass beads in Patagonia?


Francisco Moreno* wrote back in 1890 about the Phoenicians in Patagonia. (El Museo de la Plata - Rápida ojeada sobre su fundación y desarrollo Rev. Mus. de la Plata. VI, p.50, 1890-91), below is what he said:


"Many have investigated certain colored glass [beads] found in England attributed to the Egyptians, Phoenicians, and then to the Romans, and later to the Venetian manufacturers. They have been found in North America, and the La Plata Museum has some found in our northern provinces and in this one of Buenos Aires; and personally I have gathered them in the ancient burials of Patagonia. Before my trip to Europe, I believed they were Roman brought by some of those who accompanied Pedro de Mendoza [1] and who had taken part in the wars in Italy, but an examination of the Egyptian collections at the Louvre and Lyon Museums proved to me, that they belonged to the eighteenth dynasty. However, lately it has been suggested that they are of Venetian make, imitating the ancient Phoenicians, but the matter has not yet been clarified."


[1]. Pedro de Mendoza (1487-1537) was a Spanish "Adelantado", sent by the king of Spain to establish a town on the River Plate, he founded Buenos Aires in 1536, died shortly after of syphilis, at sea, returning to Spain. He had served as an officer during Emperor Charles V (King Charles I of Spain) during the campaigns in Italy where Charles sought to assert imperial Hapsburg power over the French, and took part in the looting of Rome in 1527. Buenos Aires was abandoned in 1541 when the remaining settlers moved up river to Asuncion, Paraguay, which had friendlier natives and more resources. In 1580, the second generation Creoles returned to the River Plate and refounded Buenos Aires.


The Egyptian glass beads reached Denmark (Source) during the Late Bronze Age (1400-1200 years BCE). The first glass beads date back to the XVIII dynasty around 1550—1290 BCE (Source), they were mostly blue, since that color was popular at that time. They were tinted with cobalt blue. See image below:


blue glass beads
Blue Egyptian beads from Denmark. A. Mikkelsen, National Museum of Denmark

The Phoenicians traded with blue glass beads (made with Egyptian cobalt blue) across the Mediterranean region, and beyond.


However, the Patagonian beads could have a later, European origin. A 2017 paper about a burial in Aguada del Barril, Santa Cruz, Argentina, in Patagonia. It was discovered in 2015 (So it isn't any of those mentioned by Moreno). The authors suggest quite logically that the glass and stone beads found there were of Venetian origin anda are proof of trading between European sailors and the Tehuelche natives. The image below, from this paper, shows them (One, "G" is made of sandstone).

glass beads

Another paper published in 2024 includes a detailed description of the glass beads found at the Chenque 1 site in Sierra Colorada, Santa Cruz. The paper also gives them a European origin. However, it mentions that Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa, who visited the Strait of Magellan in 1579, and again in 1584, to settle the area and prevent the English from occupying the Strait, also saw the natives wearing beads: "beads, between green and blue... the strings that the Indians wear on their heads and necks in large skeinsare of the same wool [guanaco wool] and among them they wear strings of long blue beads, turquoise outside and with a black heart...".


Were these native beads? Phoenician? or did the Natives at the Strait get them from other voyagers that visited the region between the early 1500s (Amerigo Vespucci ⁄ Magellan) and Sarmiento in 1579?


Subjecting the glass to X-ray spectroscopy, spectrometry and other laboratory techniques can identify the provenance of its components and the makeup of the glass itself. These experimental methods have been used to identify the source of beads found in Portugal (Source) and in Sub-Saharan Africa (Source). They could clarify the source of the Patagonian beads.


* Francisco Pascasio Moreno (1852-1919). Argentine scientist. He explored Patagonia several times in the 1870s. In 1877, he was named Director of the Buenos Aires Anthropological Museum, which in 1884 became the La Plata Natural History Museum. He is usually referred to as “Perito” Moreno (Perito is Spanish for "specialist”, “expert") for his key role during the border conflict between Argentina and Chile from 1892 to 1902, in which he defused an inevitable war. He donated a vast tract of land that the Argentine government gave him as a reward for his services and formed Argentina’s first National Park in Puerto Blest, on Lake Nahuel Huapi. He served as a member of the Argentine Congress.



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